Hey, Mr. Tambourine Man,
play a song for me
I'm not sleepy
and there ain't no place I'm goin' to
Hey, Mr. Tambourine Man,
play a song for me
In the jingle jangle morning,
I'll come followin' you
Take me for a trip upon
your magic swirling ship
All my senses have been stripped
And my hands can't feel to grip
And my toes too numb to step
Wait only for my boot heels to be wanderin'
I'm ready to go anywhere,
I'm ready for to fade
Unto my own parade
Cast your dancing spell my way
I promise to go under it
I am confident that there are a lot of husbands who are familiar with the look. Nough said.
I made a run this morning to Rural King to purchase 6 bags of softener salt and 4 boxes of suets. Along the way I noticed the sky was an alluring blue and it was criss crossed with numerous vapor trails. We are at least 50-60 miles from the nearest airport.
After I pulled into the RK parking lot I counted the vapor trails.
17
Only 1 of them was “active” showing an actual jet producing it.
No other planes in sight yet there they were, vapor trails bigger’n Stuttgart for all the world to see.
How, and why?
Enough Florida residents have complained and they are beginning to take action.
The purpose of this bill is to separate fact from fiction,’ Republican Sen. Ileana Garcia said.
Gov. Ron DeSantis has signed controversial legislation that bans weather geoengineering and prohibits what conspiracy theorists call “chemtrails.”
The bill, sponsored by Republican Sen. Ileana Garcia, will require the Department of Environmental Protection to track and investigate complaints from residents about suspected weather modification or suspicious activity.
Beginning Oct. 1, operators of publicly owned airports must also submit monthly reports to the Florida Department of Transportation on any aircraft equipped to disperse substances with climate-altering capabilities. Any airport failing to do so would lose state funding.
“The purpose of this bill is to separate fact from fiction,” Garcia said as she supported studying the extent of existing weather modification. She argued the legislation wasn’t meant to perpetuate conspiracy theories, but add scrutiny to possibly disprove them altogether.
The bill also repeals regulations allowing cloud seeding.
Just so everyone knows: There’s a block on comments that have too many links. This one has 4 so I imagine it’s 3. I don’t have problem with it but I have to moderate the comment … which means I have to receive the notification first. So if there’s a delay, that’s probably why (like this one). No problems – I just have to know a comment needs to be approved and that may take a while if I’m elsewhere.
Have you ever enjoyed a cold beer in a mug or a glass that you just pulled out of the freezer? Of course you have. That small layer of ice on your glass somehow makes the beer taste better.
But how does it form? You know the answer to that question too. That very cold glass comes into contact with the relatively warmer and moister air of your kitchen and the moisture in the air immediately surrounding the glass, freezes and adheres to the glass. Your beer experience has just improved.
Congratulations. You have just explained contrails.
The air exhausting from a jet engine is warmer than the air which did not go through the engine. When the 2 airs mix after the plane has passed through them, under certain conditions (temperatures, humidity, etc.)…contrails….which are nothing more than ice crystals….will form.
Contrails can also sometimes form off the wingtips or the flaps when they’re down. The explanation here is similar, but different. Instead of ice crystals forming when airs of dissimilar temperatures mix, here the crystals form when air masses of different pressures mix.
These phenomena sometimes happen and sometimes don’t for one simple reason: The air is a fluid. It is never uniform. Sometimes you look at a lake and the water is glassy smooth. Other times you’ll see waves. Sometimes the water is clear and other times cloudy. The air is the same way. You’ll fly through one “patch” of air and contrails will form. Thirty seconds later and the air has a different characteristic and they won’t. Sometimes the contrails will linger and at other times they will immediately dissipate. Ancient Indian wisdom: You can never step into the same river twice.
Only trolls believe in chemtrails. Don’t be a troll.
Please explain why they are not consistent. They start, they stop, some jets have them, some do not. Why are some states banning them, some not.
Contrails are not consistent because the air itself is not consistent. You know this implicitly when you look at the sky on a partly cloudy day. Here there are clouds, but there, there are none. That non-uniformity of the air at 5000′-20,000′ above the earth doesn’t bother you at all. That same non-uniformity exists at 30,000-40,000′.
Let’s say that you’re standing in your backyard looking up at 2 planes…one producing a contrail and the other not. What are those planes’ altitudes? Can you tell with your eye if one is at 30,000′ and the other at 37,000′? The conditions can be very different at those 2 altitudes. Can you tell the altitudes of 2 planes when both are somewhere above 30,000′? 30,000′ is over 5.5 miles over your head.
Also, look at the planes. The typical EGT (Exhaust Gas Temperature) of a B737NG at cruise using a CFM56-7B engine is 750-850°C. Depending on the engine, the EGT of an A320 at cruise can range between 600-750°C. [I got both of those from Google AI.] Also, when you’re driving on the freeway at a constant freeway speed, your engine’s RPM is rarely stable. Maybe your car’s RPM varies between 1900 and 2200RPM. If you measured the temperature of your car’s exhaust, don’t you think that it would vary too? This applies to airplanes too. Pilots fly their planes almost exclusively on autopilot. But even more universal is the use of an autothrottle (the aviation equivalent of your car’s cruise control). The autothrottle does a better job of keeping the plane on cruise speed than the pilot can. But as with your car, the autothrottle advances and declines, which in turn changes the EGT, sometimes just slightly.
I should have given you an answer to this….
The first part of my answer is that some states are spinning their wheels and waving their arms to simply get the Chemtrail Trolls to shut up for maybe a minute about their delusions.
But while I haven’t (and won’t) looked into what these states might be doing on this topic, my guess is that they’re banning, or at least, regulating cloud seeding or other attempts at modifying the weather. But cloud seeding is not the same as the claim that contrails=chemtrails. Contrails are a perfectly normal, completely explainable phenomenon. Chemtrails are fiction.
Note my words at the beginning of your reply…I am not a troll.
Now, for one moment, step away from your pilot defensive mode and ponder what I am asking.
Doesn’t there seem to be a lot more of these vapor trails now than there was, say, 30 years ago? And also doesn’t it seem like they hang around a lot longer?
Yesterday when I saw those 17 vapor trails I marveled, as I had never seen that many at the same time. They literally blanketed the sky. The one that was being created as I watched looked normal size (width) but most of the others were absolutely gigantic, as if they’d been there spreading out with the currents for a long time.
Lastly, I wonder how this whole “chemtrail” idea came about if there is no substance or truth to it?
As a life long truth seeker, trapped in a world of constantly expanding falsehoods, I have no choice but to question everything.
PS: The one in the pic cost $22.50 but the ones we bought in 2007 cost almost $200 each. In part, that why we don’t do that stuff anymore. We don’t do a whole lot of stuff anymore.
No. In my anecdotal experience, I’m not seeing more contrails than my memory of 30 years ago. Nor am I seeing them persist longer than they used to. But 30 years ago is a long period for which to find a possible explanation. In those 30 years, there have been mergers among the 4 Big Majors (American, Delta & United plus Southwest) and Second Tier airlines have come and gone. Comparing the number of planes in the sky from 30 years ago to today isn’t easy. But if you were to look back at 2018 or so, the Big 3 have increased their fleet sizes between 6-10%. I imagine that similar growth would be seen throughout the industry. In short, more planes=more contrails.
You’re kidding me, right?
Didn’t we just leave the Covid years and all those who were telling us to “Trust the Science” (sic) about masks, six-foot spacing, and vaccines? The American and global publics will swallow all sorts of foolishness.
azlibertarian–your last statement —
“Didn’t we just leave the Covid years and all those who were telling us to “Trust the Science” (sic) about masks, six-foot spacing, and vaccines? The American and global publics will swallow all sorts of foolishness.”
Says it all. It was the government pushing the masks, pushing six foot spacing–vaccines.
I agree with what you said, but that’s not what I was talking about.
The tings you mentioned were all put out there by the gov’t and it’s factions. I’m guessing the chemtrail stuff was not, but rather, by private entities. I mean, if the chemtrails were really an attempt by the gov’t to blanket the country in vaccines and other diabolical methodry they probably wouldn’t be admitting they did so. Therefore I suspect private entities started it all up. That’s why I’m wondering why they did that?
Ultimately the whole subject, for now, goes into that closet over there in the corner that has all the other mysteries that may or may not have originated with this lying assed criminal gov’t and/or the myriad network of nitwits that have taken a pulpit in the church of the internet. :-/
FWIW, if I had been gone for 3 days the door locks would have been changed and all my shit would be at the curb.
To be clear, that rule goes both ways.
With the exception that her shit would be on fire and I’d have 2 or 3 new strumpets in residence…..just sayin’….don’t play….
Amen. Been married to my good Filipina wife for 22.5 years. We know where we stand and have complete trust.
Last week I was on business travel and my son was on Army Reserve travel. I was able to catch up with him for 15 minutes at his gate in Phoenix. I pace counted almost 1,800 yards from my gate to his. He saw me before I saw him and he hugged me from behind. Proud of what I am seeing in my legacy.