No Arrests
Re: Twin Falls shooting
“Police identified the suspect during a press conference on Sunday as 24-year-old Chad Williams, who died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. An off-duty State Trooper and a citizen returned fire.“
An armed citizen helps stop a mass shooting
… and didn’t get arrested.
Or shot.
Twin Falls Police Chief Matthew Hicks: “We want to take a moment to commend the actions of the off-duty officer and the citizen, and their heroic action to stop this incident. We believe their actions helped drive the suspect away from the scene, preventing further casualties.”

I have always wondered why Ghostsniper didn’t settle in Idaho. It would be a good choice for him.
HELP Please! I am once again getting a long list of scrambled letters and signs when I try to log into Maggie’s Farm. When that happened the last time, someone here told me which buttons to push on my computer to be abel to log in again! I am once again asking for that same advice! Thank you,
I read they are creating a new site…not sure how we will know when that is completed….
Caveats up front….
I’ve seen several versions of this story where it is said that the citizen in this story shot to distract the shooter, or as it is put here, “…[helped to] drive the suspect away from the scene, preventing further casualties.”
I think that this is a dangerous argument on which to base your legal defense. The off-duty law enforcement officer may (or may not) have some Qualified Immunity for his actions, but no such But-I’m-the-Good-Guy-Here immunity should be expected or assumed by the civilian.
My view as a complete amateur on this topic is that pulling your weapon or Heaven forbid, putting some rounds down range, in an engagement in which you are a third-party, places you right up to the edge of legal jeopardy. All it would take would be some Soros- or Moms Demand Action-funded District Attorney, and you’ll be facing charges.
When I carry my sidearm, it exists to protect me and mine. If I am near you and you happen to be in danger, then don’t expect me to come to your rescue. You have the same right to a self-defense as I do. If you choose to go about unarmed, that’s your choice and not mine.
JMO and as always, YMMV, but I think that the wiser course would have been to find the nearest exit.
You’ll get no argument from me.
BTW, even if it’s completely legal, who walks around with a (concealed) firearm that has a suppressor on it?
Kind of weird, but sure makes a good picture.
If you are sure of your target, then shoot to kill.
I commonly carry in public, but in CA most of the month. Most of what I own is illegal here.
They have to get a lot less expensive, and smaller, before I get one. And a way to get around the threaded barrel necessity.
I just saw this on Facebook. While the NFA still is technically alive, it looks to be in hospice.
There’ll come a day when you can buy a suppressor over the counter at your local Tractor Supply.
I want to build one. Rumor has it, and you didn’t hear it from me, that a local dood made one and when connected to a .22 rifle it was almost silent from 5 feet away. He supposedly got free plans online and used easily acquired hardware materials and basic home workshop tools. Got a welder? (amazon has em for a couple hundred bux)
On this subject, I understand that all the cool kids are in to 3D printing.
Myself, I am not a cool kid. Dunno the first (second or third) thing about 3D printing. But I do know people who do.
I’ve got some further thoughts. This guy is beyond “kind of weird”.
This guy is a weirdo and he does the Gun Community no favors.
Very well articulated. I Agree.
Just a note that carry – open or concealed – is not unusual here – and if not too far off the beaten path, it’s a real good idea (critters may want to discuss food chain order with you).
Actually, except for city folk, it’s best to assume everyone here is armed even if there’s a good chance they’re not.
Not too far from me: “The Garden Valley School District has signs that say in black and white, “Please be aware that trained staff members at Garden Valley schools are legally armed.””
Crime rates are pretty low here. That’s why this incident is all over local news.
I am on long record…at least as far back as Columbine (1999)….that teachers and staff should be able to be armed. After the program was developed to arm airline pilots, I thought that that would be a good model upon which to arm teachers.
Some features of the program that I think would be reasonable…..
Well AZ, I could take issue with a number of your thoughts (I also agree with a number of them, for whatever that might be worth). But I would like to confine my friendly criticism to your comments about shoulder holsters. First, my bona fides on this subject: I am a former reasonably successful competitor in both IPSC and IHMSA. I have carried in public almost every day for most of my adult life. Depending on my situation, I have carried everything from a 44 AutoMag to a 22 magnum derringer. I have carried in most manners imaginable except appendix (for reasons that are clear enough to me).
There is nothing at all wrong or unusual about shoulder holster carry. It does not have to involve a Don Johnson or Dirty Harry fantasy. In fact if you sit a lot, carrying in a shoulder holster is probably the most comfortable and it may be the safest way to do it. Speaking of safety, It is not at all difficult to draw a handgun from a shoulder holster without endangering your arm or somebody behind you or next to you. I do note for the record though, that shoulder holster carry was not allowed in IPSC and, of course, unnecessary in IHMSA. Like most things worth doing, It just takes a little practice to do it proficiently. In my older age now, my favorite form of carry is a Walter PP in .380 in a shoulder holster. And I don’t have any James Bond fantasies either.
With supressor, he was carrying a 12 inch long pistol in that shoulder rig. No way he pulled that thing without some effort and sweeping was impossible to avoid. I have a shoulder rig for my Beretta 92FS and have never carried it that way in public but I agree it is very comfortable under a vest.
With proper technique sweeping is very possible to avoid. I carried my AutoMag in a SafariLand shoulder rig set low on my side and practiced drawing it in such a way so as not to endanger myself and those around me. An AutoMag is not a small handgun. The statement that sweeping is impossible to avoid is simply not true.
So, he was a wind-up toy?
Hope this was far away from you and Mrs.
150 miles or so
ok. Be safe.