Mary Ya Wanna?
Here’s one where I may differ from “right-wing”. Less government is best government.
I see Trump reclassified marijuana from a Schedule 1 drug to Schedule 3, the same status as Tylenol 3 (with codeine) and testosterone as having “moderate to low potential for physical and psychological dependence.”
I favor legalization. Not because I’m a user (the 70s were long ago) but because I don’t believe the government should have the powers to criminalize such. I do favor penalties for abuse and consequences of use – same as for drunk driving (but I favor getting rid of “open container” laws as well). I think marijuana (and cocaine for that matter) should be classified the same as tobacco and alcohol … for which an argument could be made for decriminalizing those as well (yes, I know they’re “legal” but …)
Same argument for guns.
So what if they may be bad for you? That’s your choice, not some karen goody-two-shoes.
I tend to think there are medical uses for marijuana – nausea treatment during chemo for example but I don’t believe it’s a miracle cure-all. More honest research should be performed; the government has suppressed or politicized such efforts for almost 100 years. Recall that marijuana was not illegal until after prohibition ended (1937 as I recall) and I believe at least part of the reason it was made illegal is to give the prohibition agents something to do rather than have to find honest work.
I won’t go into all the arguments for – or against; I won’t change anyone’s mind, such discussions won’t change my mind – but if you use, that use is not an excuse for truly criminal behaviour. You ARE responsible for your actions – or lack of action, even if, especially if, you’re voluntarily discombobulated at the time.
Another crutch for an already morally weakened society.
And one that, now without doubt, causes pyschosis in quite a number of regular users due to the very high levels of THC in “modern” marijuana.
Just what we need, more psychotics.
I have long term experience with it and consider myself an expert. But not for the past 20 years. I would do it now if I had a good connection. Various people I know online have offered to send me some but I have declined because of potential legal ramifications. I have friends in FL, my age, older, and younger, that partake and have told me the media rumor that the stuff that’s out there now is far more “powerful” than what was out there just 20-30 years ago, and all have said it’s bullshit. More media lies.
I started smokin weed at age 16 (1971) and had done so almost continuously til my early 50’s when we moved here in the hinters. From trash Mexican to top shelf Sinsemilia and all places in between. Yes, I could roll one with one hand. Ta-Da!!
If anyone ever tells you that someone smoked weed then went and committed a crime you must crack that rumorist right across the yap for lying. Doesn’t happen. Probably never happened. You know what happens after you smoke a joint? You turn into a blobbed out zombie on the couch. You just want to stay right there and zone out. Listen to toonz, stare at the toob. Nothing strenuous, nothing that requires much thinking. You have full control of your functions but you just don’t want to. Imagine an overwhelming lazy feeling. Or, say, 6 shots of good whiskey without the headaches or violent tendency. People high on weed are almost impossible to get angered to violence. They’d rather just fire up another joint and space out.
No one has ever tripped or hallucinated on MJ, it’s not possible. I’ve done acid and LSD lots of times and the chemical make up is just not the same as MJ. Again, if anyone tells you some one hallucinated off weed, well, you know what to do to curb their lying ass.
For most of the past century there has been a concerted effort by the gov’t and others to put a bad slant on what is a very meager substance all things said. MJ grows out of the ground, and all you have to do is let it dry out, roll it up, put a lighter to it and dig in. NOTHING ELSE REQUIRED. It’s natural. Can you say that about beer, whiskey, wine? Hell no. I believe it was the alcohol industry that lobbied the gov’t to make MJ illegal because of the competition. Er, perceived competition. In my opinion there is no competition. MJ will get you there faster, cheaper, better, without all the negative effects of alcohol. Drink 6 beers to get a minor buzz and see how long you can go before you HAVE to go to the bathroom and then again 10 mins later, etc, etc. MJ won’t do that to you.
I’d really like to sit on my front porch in the summer evenings and fire up a big fat B52 bomber and veg out watching the wildlife rather than the way I’ve done it for the past 20 years, which is to drink some sort of alcohol. My wife feels the same, though back in the day she was kind of a lightweight about it. In fact, one of the first questions she asked me when we first met was, “Do you smoke?” Me, “Cigs?”. Her, “Weed.” Me, “Of course.” She had just moved to FL a couple months prior and was Jonesing. I was in like flint!
I don’t know if what trump did was good or bad. What I do know is that anytime the gov’t sticks it fat snoot into anything it will inevitably be bad, VERY bad.
I agree with most of what DT said, especially the part about gov’t should not be involved with it, at all.
Just remembered. Just yesterday an old army buddy in Oregon emailed me and told me he has 8 black trashbags of red bud weed from his harvest 3 months ago and he’ll send me as much as I want. They get to grow their own out there. What a country! I declined because I’m too old to be sitting in the shit can. Yeah, right, what a fuckin country. He gets to grow it but I can’t.
I’ll bet you would never let your spotter do a doobie…….
Let?
I don’t control anybody, nor want to.
Didn’t you guys have to pee in a bottle back in the day? Government service usually required that. Even for contractors. I lost a good Sergeant from that. They might have started that drug testing in the 80’s.
I am highly hostile to drugs and weed. I’ve seen too many lives tragically wasted and destroyed, people I cared about. The problem is the slippery slope, the “gateway drug” of weed leading to worse stuff. I’m libertarian, do what you want and keep the government out of it, but on the aggregate it leads to tragic waste of lives and corruption.
Some States legalized the stuff and then tried to tax the crap out of it. So the Chinese came in and started large-scale illegal farming. And then the berry and vegetable fields in Oxnard got converted to pot farms by politically-connected operators, who employ illegal aliens and their children.
Damn drugs and weed corrupt and destroy everything and everyone they touch. Ask the Meathead about that. Rehab doesn’t work, it’s just another corrupt business where they take your money and your loved one is still f’ed up and forever.
It is whispered that China with long memories is revenging on us for the 1800’s opium trade. Importing fentanyl into the USA in massive quantities. As opium weakened them, so now fentanyl does to us.
So yeah. Keep the government out of it, but shout it from every rooftop, miss no opportunity to proclaim that drugs and weed are just through and through evil. Yeah, that wins me no points from lots of folks, but we need a culture where drugs and weed are despised by everyone that counts, and all users are allowed to destroy themselves as quickly as possible, so they will be an example to all the rest of us.
One thing I’ve learned, I do not help the user by making it easier for them. They just use my support to get themselves more drugs. A user will do literally anything to get more drugs. Ask the Meathead about that. Drug users need to suffer the consequences of their choices, quickly and without pity, and it does not help them to help them.
Don’t glamorize drugs and weed. They destroy people with addictive personalities, who might otherwise live long and useful and happy lives. And every story where someone says “drugs and weed are ok, I turned out just fine” is just another nail in the coffin of all the lives destroyed. If being libertarian means that a person takes responsibility for their actions and accepts the consequences of their actions, then that drug-using person ought to admit their contribution to the destruction of our people and our nation.
But keep glamorizing, producing, and taxing the hell out of the most popular, profitable, manufactured, and damaging drug ever created – alcohol.
“Gateway” is just one more silly attempt to scare people and it seems to be successful though unfounded.
Hell, I can’t get any drugs at all but I can as much of the legal stuff as I can afford.
“After all, it’s only a weed, that turns into a flower in your mind.”
“People high on weed are completely passive, never prone to violence unless extremely provoked, and just want to be left alone.”
–gs, 2099
One more thing, and this is being said with decades of experience.
If I could buy MJ easily and legally, I’d probably never drink alcohol ever again. If more people smoked weed there would be a lot less violence.
Count yourself lucky it didn’t destroy you. Others are not so fortunate. In my experience, the users I have known were the examples of why we call it dope and they stoners.
As for liquor, it seems to be a social lubricant and a highly malleable and varied pleasure. The infinitudes of beers, wines, liqueurs, cocktails, whiskies, ciders, etc. Per the testimony here, dope leaves a person stoned on the couch. Not very useful and not much variety. The alcoholic drinks are how we preserved our harvests and our stories. Tobacco, alcohol, coffee, tea: the lubricants of our civilization.
I agree, an unfortunate afflicted with an addictive personality or physiology will pick their favorite poison, booze weed or drugs and ruin themselves and torture those who love them. It runs in families, Trump’s, my wife’s, and the survivors learn to despise the stuff and stay away from it. My father I am told was at the brink one time, until my mother laid down the law and he had the strength to come back. I’ve learned over the years and set rules for myself: one per day, and only a couple of times per week. Because if I have two, then I will have three, and then who knows what will happen.
There are 2 worlds out there. One is where people actually lived it and know the facts of the matter. The second one is where people receive their information from entities with long histories of falsehoods. In the absence of one, most will cleave to two.
In all the words written negatively about reefer, substitute the word “guns” and get another angle.
I have half a century of evidence to back my words along with many personal testimonies by others on this subject that most of what the mainstream produces are outright lies.
If I could find a local, regular supplier of decent quality weed I’d never buy alcohol again, and the alcohol industry knows this and keeps paying out the ying yang to keep the myth alive.
Sinead O’Connor only smoked cannabis for 30 years. Hmmm
Just to show no hard feelings, here’s Instapundit pointing to a just-up article on how micro-doses of cannabinoids (weed extract) help dementia patients. Just when the boomers are easing into their golden years, it shows they were right all along. “Weed will get you through times of no memory, better than memory will get you through times of no weed.”
I smoked pot for about ten years when I lived in Florida.
I stopped for 2 reasons…it got too damned expensive. And I got a job working for the local Safety Council in Daytona and considered it hypocritical to keep smoking when I was teaching my students that it was bad and not to do it. Plus I was nervous about it being illegal.
Once I stopped smoking it I really didn’t miss it.
It is not a gateway drug.
It does not cause psycho issues.
No greater truth than the voice of experience.
When our son was young I stopped smoking weed in front of him because he was curious about it. (His “Papaw”, my wife’s dad, smoked a tobacco pipe and he was always fascinated by it. Sometimes Papaw would let him light the pipe with a BIC lighter.) I’d go into the master bathroom and take a couple hits off my pipe then leave.
Once, when our son was about 5 we were having problems with the primary bathroom and until I could get it fixed he would use the master bathroom. On one of these occasions he came out of the master and announced to his mother, “My dad was smoking his pipe again.”
Earlier that year he had come home from school with paperwork pertaining to that (Nancy Reagan) DARE campaign where the gov’t tried to use students to narc on their parents.
It was at that point that I took my private enterprise to a completely underground operation.
I cannot blow dew as long as I have a Gubmint security clearance. Not much interest regardless. Couple glasses of box wine in the evening is my crutch.
Went hunting with an uncle in WVA some years back. Used his basement laundry to wash some clothes. My my, he had an impressive tomato plant under a UV light, growing in the corner.
Once upon a Jimmy Carter time, I had a sooper-sekret squirrel rating at a sooper sekret black fence inside a black fence site way out beyond the outback. At that time, I’m convinced TPTB were the suppliers; I suspect they figured if it was going to happen anyway, they might as well provide the goods. And good goods they were. Worker bees did the hoo-hoo, important people did the nose candy. Hard cores took the license-free 200-proof ethanol cleanser and mixed it with Tang. Funny thing is, the quality of work then … before computers, lawyers, and accountants took over … was better than it has been recently now that we have computers and regulations and testing. Verified by knot sooper sekret records I kept over the years.
TPTB…? (sometimes I feel dumb here)
The Powers That Be